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Originally posted 2006-12-05 17:57:16.
Oh look the market fundie is out of original/decent arguments so it reverts to grandstanding ignoring the prior points made and ad hominem. What a surprise, more “reasonable” commentary from a “Reason”TV church member. The market creationist also misses the ironic point in calling him such, not surprising.
And thanks for the “creationist” tag; it is totally false as I am an evolutionist: govt no more created the market than it created the human species.
Which would make you, apparently, a Lamarckian.
Now, child, if you won’t offer the examples I asked for, remain silent and let this convo end with me in possession.
Cry harder because I have a life, please. BTW, I would like to apologize for my mistake: the govt. took off the $400 bn cap each to Fannie and Freddie, the well-known govt fraudsters who called their alt-As and subprimes prime.
And again, little boy, you haven’t pointed out *any* problems with my arguments: you still have no clue how Fannie and Freddie failed without CDSs.
And again, you’ve yet to point to a single private corp. that took down an entire economy. Tut, child.
Well, the meanings have long since changed, Moragauth, and it’s time to get with the picture. there’s not 2 dominant ideologies, there’s 4. libertarianism and conservatism are considered “right wing” (libertarianism is the “classical liberalism” you refer to) and on the “left” are socialism and communitarianism (communism, naziism, and other militant dictatorships tend to be communitarian)
socialism is to communitarianism what libertarianism is to conservatism.
You’re about a week late for me to really care.
“Point out one problem, ignore the rest, claim your simplified view of reality is the right one.” Basically why I don’t buy your pathetic arguments, if I remember correctly we’ve been over this ad nauseum.
Except when deregulation allows mergers creating the “too big to fail” situation, but we’ve been over this ad nauseum as well.
Just another market creationist.
Apparently, my arguments are so pathetic you must them for non-existent, anthropomorphic qualities, as opposed to, say, offering cogent counter-arguments.
But hey! The U.S. Treasury just raised the cap on TARP funds to Fannie and Freddie to $400 bn each! You know, the trustworthy and CDS-free GSEs whose bosses will make a cool $5-6 mil each.
You really don’t get recessions and credit crunches, do you? Only the over-leveraged suffer and they do so regardless of the form of credit. Sad, boy.
well put
Sad but true…
Since the fundies took over.
The classical liberals were originally considered “left-wing” whereas the more traditionalist authoritarian conservatives “right-wing”. Technically speaking that is the correct usage of the labels.
Since when is being a right winger means being outside or the reality based community (whatever that means)?
Since when is left-wing antistate?
This video is an interesting, well known, bit of history, but there are also a few errors and misrepresentations – for example it is not “The French Government” that directly limits how wine is made in a region but each region’s OWN oversight body, the Appellation Controlee system.
I might also point out that the VAST majority of California’s exports are not the high quality wineries your mention, but Gallo and other volume brands.
However, wine is now a global product, let’s enjoy it together
The original liberals i.e. classical liberals sat to the left, not right… the term makes no historical sense even. So…
Not economically. There’s a difference between the collectivist vs. individualist economic dichotomy and authoritarian vs. anarchic social dichotomy.
It’s like we are living an Ayn Rand or an George Orwell Novel depending on the news of the day, isn’t it?
Okie dokie. BTW I’m “left-wing”, ie antistate.
Wow, your “arguments” are really getting pathetic now. Do you really want a history lesson? Protip: don’t argue from ignorance.
“banks only stopped lending after…”
You’re in variance from reality.
Seriously, market fundamentalists are just the creationists of the economic world. I suggest you get your information from a source beyond the ra ra free market echo chamber.
Typical right winger. Well outside of the reality based community.
Not going to happen. The crisis wouldnt’ve had near the scale it had if 1) bad loans were not incentivised 2) risk taking was incentivised 3) money were not as abundant as water due to credit expansion and 4) even if that is true, it still explains an aggravating factor and not the actual cause of the crisis. BTW, what is a bailout if not moral hazard? …
Hence your predicament.
No, I don’t care about scientistic garbage emanating from echo chambers.
God Bless Mike Grgich and his beautiful vineyards.
May Nancy Pelosi’s vineyard be beset upon by locusts.
He had a great career, with roles in everything from Brutus in “Julius Caesar”, Capt Nemo in Disney’s “20,000 Leagues under the sea” and as the tired old regimental commander in “Cross of Iron”.
Then how has every other panic occurred in the past, when CDSs were unknown? Reserves were set too low by the govt, then the recession hit, and every institution that hadn’t enough reserves collapsed. As for the predicted huge collapse, banks only stopped lending after Uncle Sugar gave them the TARP dollars… you know, when they didn’t need the interest money anymore.
And once more, Silent7Boy: Morgan+NYFed bailed out Bear. THEN Fannie/Freddie collapsed. Why so guilty?
Then you don’t care about science. Makes sense given your attitude.